Comments on: Controversial abortion doctor George Tiller shot to death in Wichita http://whatsthematterwithkansas.com/2009/05/controversial-abortion-doctor-george-tiller-shot-to-death-in-wichita/ Documentary film based on Thomas Frank's best-seller Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:22:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Those dangerous fundraisers « Official Blog – What's the Matter with Kansas? http://whatsthematterwithkansas.com/2009/05/controversial-abortion-doctor-george-tiller-shot-to-death-in-wichita/comment-page-1/#comment-66 Those dangerous fundraisers « Official Blog – What's the Matter with Kansas? Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:59:49 +0000 http://whatsthematterwithkansas.wordpress.com/?p=139#comment-66 [...] anger that appears to be bubbling up in the wake of Barack Obama’s election.  The murder of George Tiller.  The shooting at the Holocaust museum.  Anti-gay violence.  One hopes things [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('66','Those dangerous fundraisers « Official Blog – What's the Matter with Kansas?'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('66','Those dangerous fundraisers « Official Blog – What's the Matter with Kansas?','[...] anger that appears to be bubbling up in the wake of Barack Obama’s election.  The murder of George Tiller.  The shooting at the Holocaust museum.  Anti-gay violence.  One hopes things [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] anger that appears to be bubbling up in the wake of Barack Obama’s election.  The murder of George Tiller.  The shooting at the Holocaust museum.  Anti-gay violence.  One hopes things [...]
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]]> By: Patrice Lamoree http://whatsthematterwithkansas.com/2009/05/controversial-abortion-doctor-george-tiller-shot-to-death-in-wichita/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Patrice Lamoree Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:53 +0000 http://whatsthematterwithkansas.wordpress.com/?p=139#comment-65 Not surprising. These ARE the people who were/are all gung-ho to Invade and Occupy Iraq. The people who, even once it was demonstrated that WE WERE LIED TO, STILL approve of the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis, most of whom NEVER were, and never would have been, a threat to U.S. Though I can't say as much about what Iraqis ARE now, since we have by a damned-site given them plenty to want revenge for now. There is such a thing as genuine Pro-Life values, but what passes for conventional "Pro-Life" values in U.S. politics is LIES and HYPOCRISY. These are the people that Sam Brownback will represent when he runs for governor. This act is another demonstration of why I may agree with these people in Principle, but I do not agree with them in practice, because, in practice, they ARE the same thing as that which they claim to abhor, just ask the 10s of thousands of dead Iraqi Children - if you could. Just extrapolate their willingness to act as "God" into, say something such as, a Long Term Care environment in which decisions about who gets the benefit of what Business dollars ARE going to be made. It's waaaaaay more than 2 wrongs don't make a right. At least when an individual woman makes a decision, right or wrong, that's her and her family. I have been involved in the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis and no one asked me anything about it. I WILL NEVER FORGET that fact. And, whereas I'd like to be on board with the values that "Pro-Lifers" SAY they support, I see no evidence that they DO actually support those values. Everything that comes out of their political camp is literally DOG-EAT-DOG. All I see is a political obsession with fetuses to the exclusion of the actual value of many other lives, especially those of Muslims. When it comes down to it, I DISLIKE Late-Term Abortion too for the SAME reasons that I hate War, but in order to deal with Late-Term Abortion, we NEED to begin by admitting that "we" kill ALL kinds of others in ALL sorts of ways ALL OF THE TIME, for ALL kinds or rationalizations. Maybe if "we" can admit that, we can begin to talk about what to do about it, not just Late-Term Abortion.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('65','Patrice Lamoree'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('65','Patrice Lamoree','Not surprising. These ARE the people who were\/are all gung-ho to Invade and Occupy Iraq. The people who, even once it was demonstrated that WE WERE LIED TO, STILL approve of the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis, most of whom NEVER were, and never would have been, a threat to U.S. Though I can\'t say as much about what Iraqis ARE now, since we have by a damned-site given them plenty to want revenge for now. There is such a thing as genuine Pro-Life values, but what passes for conventional \"Pro-Life\" values in U.S. politics is LIES and HYPOCRISY. These are the people that Sam Brownback will represent when he runs for governor.\n\nThis act is another demonstration of why I may agree with these people in Principle, but I do not agree with them in practice, because, in practice, they ARE the same thing as that which they claim to abhor, just ask the 10s of thousands of dead Iraqi Children - if you could.\n\nJust extrapolate their willingness to act as \"God\" into, say something such as, a Long Term Care environment in which decisions about who gets the benefit of what Business dollars ARE going to be made.\n\nIt\'s waaaaaay more than 2 wrongs don\'t make a right. At least when an individual woman makes a decision, right or wrong, that\'s her and her family. I have been involved in the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis and no one asked me anything about it. I WILL NEVER FORGET that fact. And, whereas I\'d like to be on board with the values that \"Pro-Lifers\" SAY they support, I see no evidence that they DO actually support those values. Everything that comes out of their political camp is literally DOG-EAT-DOG. All I see is a political obsession with fetuses to the exclusion of the actual value of many other lives, especially those of Muslims.\n\nWhen it comes down to it, I DISLIKE Late-Term Abortion too for the SAME reasons that I hate War, but in order to deal with Late-Term Abortion, we NEED to begin by admitting that \"we\" kill ALL kinds of others in ALL sorts of ways ALL OF THE TIME, for ALL kinds or rationalizations. Maybe if \"we\" can admit that, we can begin to talk about what to do about it, not just Late-Term Abortion.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Not surprising. These ARE the people who were/are all gung-ho to Invade and Occupy Iraq. The people who, even once it was demonstrated that WE WERE LIED TO, STILL approve of the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis, most of whom NEVER were, and never would have been, a threat to U.S. Though I can’t say as much about what Iraqis ARE now, since we have by a damned-site given them plenty to want revenge for now. There is such a thing as genuine Pro-Life values, but what passes for conventional “Pro-Life” values in U.S. politics is LIES and HYPOCRISY. These are the people that Sam Brownback will represent when he runs for governor.

This act is another demonstration of why I may agree with these people in Principle, but I do not agree with them in practice, because, in practice, they ARE the same thing as that which they claim to abhor, just ask the 10s of thousands of dead Iraqi Children – if you could.

Just extrapolate their willingness to act as “God” into, say something such as, a Long Term Care environment in which decisions about who gets the benefit of what Business dollars ARE going to be made.

It’s waaaaaay more than 2 wrongs don’t make a right. At least when an individual woman makes a decision, right or wrong, that’s her and her family. I have been involved in the killing of 1,000,000 Iraqis and no one asked me anything about it. I WILL NEVER FORGET that fact. And, whereas I’d like to be on board with the values that “Pro-Lifers” SAY they support, I see no evidence that they DO actually support those values. Everything that comes out of their political camp is literally DOG-EAT-DOG. All I see is a political obsession with fetuses to the exclusion of the actual value of many other lives, especially those of Muslims.

When it comes down to it, I DISLIKE Late-Term Abortion too for the SAME reasons that I hate War, but in order to deal with Late-Term Abortion, we NEED to begin by admitting that “we” kill ALL kinds of others in ALL sorts of ways ALL OF THE TIME, for ALL kinds or rationalizations. Maybe if “we” can admit that, we can begin to talk about what to do about it, not just Late-Term Abortion.

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